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, look what obama did to you. he raised your taxes. that's only going to infuriate the wealthy even more. the fact here is is that he has given them something they can campaign on plus they can turn around and say, these are his cuts to medicare, not ours. i don't now why they don't take this deal for the good of the country and come back and fight another day. >> to say democrats are not serious about entitlements, $400 billion of cuts to medicare is a cut to entitlements. that's going to mean hardship for seniors. that's a real cut. now, you can pretend like the hospitals are going to swallow all of that cost cut. they're not. they're going to pass that on. that means less health care. those are real dollars. and so you can say that democrats are not serious, but $400 billion to most people, that's real money. >> well, the obama team is saying they can find these costs in inefficiencies and providers. that's where they're going to go. they keep pushing the idea there's no question it's not going to hurt the benefits. this is the devil in detail. >> okay. >> the point being here is he h
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